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#160966: "Equal turns option doesn't count all goals completed"
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I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions.• Ist der Regelverstoß in der Spielwiederholung zu sehen? Falls ja, bei welcher Zugnummer?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
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11. Mär 2025 0:32 •
yzemaze • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:
11. Mär 2025 8:45 • NB:
I had proposed to use the equal turns option for this season’s Arena format. It garnered the most votes, but wasn’t allowed due to its beta status. Therefore, please ensure to change the status once the option is working as intended.
I’m sure most competitive players would appreciate a level playing field.
I had proposed to use the equal turns option for this season’s Arena format. It garnered the most votes, but wasn’t allowed due to its beta status. Therefore, please ensure to change the status once the option is working as intended.
I’m sure most competitive players would appreciate a level playing field.
Kadma • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:
12. Apr 2025 17:22 • Opponent got one more turn than equal
vurtan • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:
12. Apr 2025 18:22 • Hi Kadma,
I checked the Log of that Game boardgamearena.com/table?table=657747195
There you was the start player and your opponent got the last turn. So everyone had an equal amount.
I checked the Log of that Game boardgamearena.com/table?table=657747195
There you was the start player and your opponent got the last turn. So everyone had an equal amount.
Mingo • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:
20. Apr 2025 8:49 •
18. Mai 2025 16:50 • I submitted this report (above) because of my concern about how the equal turns rule (by itself) sometimes causes players to inappropriately share a win, and tagged this report as a rule violation because I didn't know what else to call it.
I wanted to clarify that the suggestion I made above is essentially just applying a tiebreaker to any scenario where it isn't appropriate for players share a win.
Maybe Uwe Rosenberg himself should weigh in on this? Playing Framework with equal turns introduces new issues that weren't relevant with the original game design.
I wanted to clarify that the suggestion I made above is essentially just applying a tiebreaker to any scenario where it isn't appropriate for players share a win.
Maybe Uwe Rosenberg himself should weigh in on this? Playing Framework with equal turns introduces new issues that weren't relevant with the original game design.
yzemaze • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:
16. Jun 2025 7:44 • Regarding Mingo’s report and proposal: She’s spot on as usual. Theoretically achieved/-able objectives (> 22) should be used as tiebreaker after everyone has played equal turns.
vurtan • Der Fehler wurde behoben:
17. Jun 2025 23:20 • Thought about it and how to implement it. Just found a good solution and deployed it right now.
Mingo • Der Fehler wurde behoben:
22. Jun 2025 18:22 • Awesome! Worked just as it should in my last game:
As the non-starting player, I had an extra turn, and proceeded to cover all 22 goals, but my opponent won the tiebreaker because they could have covered one more goal on their turn.
Thanks vurtan! :D
As the non-starting player, I had an extra turn, and proceeded to cover all 22 goals, but my opponent won the tiebreaker because they could have covered one more goal on their turn.
Thanks vurtan! :D
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