#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
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Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Bitte erkläre, was du machen wolltest, was du dann getan hast und was dann passiert ist
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Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
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• Bitte erkläre deinen Vorschlag so präzise und genau wie möglich, damit er leicht zu verstehen ist.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
• Was wurde auf dem Bildschirm angezeigt, als du blockiert wurdest (weißer Bildschirm? Teil der Spieloberfläche? Fehlermeldung?)
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
• Welcher Teil der Spielregel wurde durch die BGA-Adaption nicht beachtet?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Ist der Regelverstoß in der Spielwiederholung zu sehen? Falls ja, bei welcher Zugnummer?
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• Welche Spielaktion wolltest du durchführen?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Was versuchst du, um diese Spielaktion auszulösen?
• Was passiert, wenn du dies versuchst (Fehlermeldung, Statusmeldung des Spiels, ...)?
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
• An welcher Stelle im Spiel ist das Problem aufgetreten? Was war die aktuelle Spielanweisung?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Was passiert, wenn du die Spielaktion ausführen möchtest (Fehlermeldung, Statusmeldung des Spiels, ...)?
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
• Bitte beschreibe die Anzeigeschwierigkeiten. Falls du einen Screenshot dieses Fehlers hast (optimale Vorgehensweise), kannst du ihn bei Imgur.com hochladen, den Link kopieren und hier einfügen.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
• Bitte kopiere den Text, der in Englisch anstatt in deiner Sprache angezeigt wird, und füge ihn hier ein. Falls du einen Screenshot dieses Fehlers hast (optimale Vorgehensweise), kannst du ihn bei Imgur.com hochladen, den Link kopieren und hier einfügen.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Ist dieser Text auf der Übersetzungsseite verfügbar? Wenn ja, wurde dieser vor mehr als 24 Stunden übersetzt?
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
• Bitte erkläre deinen Vorschlag so präzise und genau wie möglich, damit er leicht zu verstehen ist.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v15.3
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That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
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- Falls du einen Screenshot dieses Fehlers hast (optimale Vorgehensweise), kannst du ihn bei Imgur.com hochladen, den Link kopieren und hier einfügen.
