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#79050: "Improvement for the peasant objective line"
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Hello!
Concerning what we talked about yesterday in the chat about the peasant objective line:
This is much clearer now, but it implicates 'grammar' mistakes in many languages. I understand that now it shows either "0 cards", "≤ 1 card", "≤ 2 cards", "≤ 3 cards", and the ${sign} appears only if the figure is not 0, with the "≤ 1 card" being a distinct string.
But, in French, Spanish and German (and others I guess), 0 is not a plural name, because "nothing" cannot be plural.
So 0 cards is incorrect in these languages, and if we want to translate it to "0 carte" for example, then the "3 carte_" would be wrong...
Can I suggest to have then 3 chains :
- "= 0 cards" that will be translated according to the languages either in plural or singular
- "≤ 1 card"
- "≤ ${nb} cards"• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
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12. Jan 2023 13:18 • Philoupino • Dieser Vorschlag wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht untersucht:
"${sign} ${nb} cards" cannot be translated plural and singular in the same time
12. Jan 2023 13:42 • ufm • Die Entwickler denken, dass es keine gute Idee ist, oder dass das Verhältnis von Aufwand zu Nutzen zu hoch ist:
Almost all (if not all) other games do not separate 0 / n plural as individual texts.
I personally hate attaching (s) at the end, but I don't think separating everything is the answer as I cannot make all translations in all languages correct without bloating translatable strings and it is not recommended generally.
I personally hate attaching (s) at the end, but I don't think separating everything is the answer as I cannot make all translations in all languages correct without bloating translatable strings and it is not recommended generally.
12. Jan 2023 15:00 • Philoupino • Die Entwickler denken, dass es keine gute Idee ist, oder dass das Verhältnis von Aufwand zu Nutzen zu hoch ist:
It's true that there are often strings like "${nb} card(s)" and the nb can be 0, 1, 2 etc. But as you did a specific case for 1, I thought you wanted to avoid the "(s)" that we meet too much everywhere.
So now if you reject it, the result will be the string "${nb} cards" to be translated "${nb} card(s)" everywhere, and the "1 card" only will have no parenthesis... sorry but that's not very beautiful during the bids. Or we could translate the string "1 card" to "1 card(s)" so that it's the same consistent presentation. But then why is there a specific case for 1?
So now if you reject it, the result will be the string "${nb} cards" to be translated "${nb} card(s)" everywhere, and the "1 card" only will have no parenthesis... sorry but that's not very beautiful during the bids. Or we could translate the string "1 card" to "1 card(s)" so that it's the same consistent presentation. But then why is there a specific case for 1?
12. Jan 2023 22:27 • ufm • Die Entwickler denken, dass es keine gute Idee ist, oder dass das Verhältnis von Aufwand zu Nutzen zu hoch ist:
Then you can add (s), remove something or do whatever stuff needed to fix grammar issues in your language.
Actually I do so in all games as Korean doesn't have singular/plural distinction.
1 is treated separately as majority of BGA users use English.
Actually I do so in all games as Korean doesn't have singular/plural distinction.
1 is treated separately as majority of BGA users use English.
13. Jan 2023 0:07 • Philoupino • Die Entwickler denken, dass es keine gute Idee ist, oder dass das Verhältnis von Aufwand zu Nutzen zu hoch ist:
OK :/
For information I searched in which languages 0 is singular (or neutral) or plural, and italian, portuguese, romanian and hungarian use also a singular zero, and catalan uses both plural or singular depending on the situation
(but I didn't find a real list as this is a strange subject ;) )
Anyway, I still think that would be a nice and quite easy improvement for the game's presentation
/ also because I'm really perfectionist ;)
For information I searched in which languages 0 is singular (or neutral) or plural, and italian, portuguese, romanian and hungarian use also a singular zero, and catalan uses both plural or singular depending on the situation
(but I didn't find a real list as this is a strange subject ;) )
Anyway, I still think that would be a nice and quite easy improvement for the game's presentation
/ also because I'm really perfectionist ;)
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