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#45161: "Logistics card says I skipped action even though I selected to play role first."

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19. Jul 2021 00:27 • GuntherJoe • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:

This happened twice in same game. First time I thought I miss-clicked, but I looked more closely the 2nd time and noticed there wasn't a skip action button.

21. Jul 2021 01:08 • Fanpuck33 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:

I thought this happened to me in a game, but I wasn't sure and like you, figured I mis-clicked something because it worked my next turn. I just went back and looked at the game (table 187423782, moves 109-111) and I think I've figured it out. After taking my role, the game says "You may discard some cards from your hand, if you do your turn will end." So apparently, to get you action after your role you HAVE to choose "Wait" instead of "Discard'.

This is not a very intuitive change. You should be able to discard the cards you don't want and just keep the card whose action you want to use and still take your action after your opponent follows or dissents.

25. Jul 2021 14:19 • GuntherJoe • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:

Thanks, @Fanpuck33. Ill give that a try my next game and report back.

26. Jul 2021 18:39 • GuntherJoe • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht nachvollzogen:

Looks like that did the trick for me. Thanks for the suggestion!

26. Jul 2021 18:54 • Victoria_La • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

yes thanks I have to look at it, its definitely not intended

18. Aug 2021 17:43 • Fanpuck33 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

This issue seems to have expanded. After I took my survey role at move 177 on table boardgamearena.com/8/eminentdomain?table=195159319, I was not even given an option to wait or discard and my opponent got to immediately take their action after they followed my role. Given that I was going to War Path with my action, that was a MAJOR swing in the game. Props to my opponent for agreeing to abandon the game, even though he was likely going to win even if I hadn't lost that action so late in the game.

29. Aug 2021 04:22 • Victoria_La • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

I think it is specifically Survey related because I cannot reproduce it other cases

23. Sep 2021 23:15 • Lunnor • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

For us, it also happened with the survey role.

29. Sep 2021 21:58 • Fanpuck33 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

Agree that now that I am looking out for it, it only seems to happen on survey. Has anyone noticed whether their opponent(s) followed the role when it skipped the action? On my last two turns at table 205527571, my action got skipped and I noticed that my opponent followed and discarded. I am wondering if that plays into it, since we know already that the action was getting skipped when you discard. Players should not be getting the option to discard when the follow a role; it should only happen at the end of their own turn.

1. Oct 2021 22:48 • Fanpuck33 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

I believe this issue is definitely linked to the other bug about offering players who are dissenting/following a role the option to discard. (boardgamearena.com/bug?id=49690)

As I also described in that bug report, this happened on a survey role at table 205990734. At move 143 I played survey and selected a planet on move 144. My opponent followed for move 145 and selected a planet for move 146. While the game log does not indicate that it happened, my opponent was erroneously offered the option to discard cards. Move 147 instead simply indicates that I had too many cards in my hand (but didn't make me do anything about it) and then moved on to my opponents turn. It should have instead come back to me to play my action phase per Logistics.

So I believe that the discarding bug is tricking the game into thinking the active player's turn is over instead of going back for the action phase.

20. Oct 2021 11:28 • Ankeszu • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

Appeared on turnbased table 209925199, annoyingly changing the result of the game as made it impossible to warfare a planet in last action of the game, which would change the winner ;)

My partners thought: Im reasonably sure it's well oiled plan causing the problem, because it did ask me if I wanted to discard after I followed, and it was even offering me using well oiled plan. And the log shows you skipping an action after your role.*

I didn't have a prompt on action (nor what to discard!), after she followed my Survey role. The game just ended after her follow.
*Although. When I checked the finished game, 30min after it finished, 'See final game situation' shows in log following statements: (reading from down)

The end of the game: AvaFoxfort wins!
Ankeszu draws 0 card(s) up to their hand limit of 5
AvaFoxfort keeps a planet
AvaFoxfort draws 2 planets
AvaFoxfort plays boost 'Survey' 'Survey' 'Survey'
AvaFoxfort follows Survey role
Ankeszu keeps a planet
You keep 'Voson'
Ankeszu draws 2 planets
Ankeszu plays boost 'Survey'
Ankeszu gains 'Survey' role card
Ankeszu plays Survey role as a leader
Ankeszu skips their Action phase
Ankeszu takes an additional turn at the end of game due to Logistics

28. Oct 2021 14:42 • tec805 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

boardgamearena.com/9/eminentdomain?table=212219595

I had 2 more actions and another double time in my hand, enough to get another battle cruiser and steal another planet. Used Logistics option "Play Role First", lost 2 actions.

tec805 draws 3 card(s) up to their hand limit of 7
tec805 gains +5 Influence from technology 'Dissension'
tec805 researches 'Dissension' Technology
tec805 plays Research role as a leader
tec805 skips their Action phase
DangerBunny14G gains
x2 from 'Empire' as REPARATIONS
tec805 gains +3 Influence from 'Lyttle'
tec805 pays
x3
tec805 pays
x1
tec805 Attacks 'Lyttle'
DangerBunny14G loses -3 Influence from 'Lyttle'
tec805 activates effects of 'MILITARY CAMPAIGN'
tec805 plays action of 'Nalarad'
tec805 can play 2 more actions, total remaining 3
tec805 plays action of 'DOUBLE TIME'
tec805 can play 2 more actions, total remaining 2
tec805 plays action of 'DOUBLE TIME'

29. Oct 2021 21:38 • Fanpuck33 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

It's not an ideal solution, but there does seem to be a way to stop the issue from happening, though it requires cooperation from the other players. As has been indicated earlier, the issue pops up whenever the other players are offered the option to discard cards when following/dissenting a role (typically survey). If the other player hits "Wait" instead of "Discard" (even if no cards are chosen), then the game will return to the player with Logistics as it should.

9. Mar 2022 22:53 • jneedler • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

Might just be a game log display script error:

This happened to me in game #248884799, move #132.

I used Logistics to do role first, and game log said I skipped my action ... but then the interface allowed me to take an action after the role had been resolved.

24. Mar 2022 18:31 • Laik66 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

boardgamearena.com/table?table=252998150

29. Mar 2022 22:15 • Laik66 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

boardgamearena.com/9/eminentdomain?table=252705779

24. Apr 2022 00:30 • Ankeszu • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

And again, and again... boardgamearena.com/3/eminentdomain?table=261192080

6. May 2023 19:42 • LarryG83 • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

boardgamearena.com/7/eminentdomain?table=374440890

I had logistics. During my end of game bonus turn, I wanted to survey for a planet and then use terraforming to colonize it. Earlier in the game, playing my role first worked fine. But this time it skipped my action and the game immediately ended after my role.

18. Nov 2023 23:21 • Physicswizzard • Der Fehler wurde von den Entwicklern bestätigt:

This happened to me at the end of the game as well. I surveyed to get a planet when I had enough fighters to attack it as an action at the end of the game, and the interface didn't allow me to attack the planet.

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