#21686: "Selector for number of meeples is misleading; replace with different selector widget"
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When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
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When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
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• Bitte erkläre deinen Vorschlag so präzise und genau wie möglich, damit er leicht zu verstehen ist.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
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• Was wurde auf dem Bildschirm angezeigt, als du blockiert wurdest (weißer Bildschirm? Teil der Spieloberfläche? Fehlermeldung?)
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
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• Welcher Teil der Spielregel wurde durch die BGA-Adaption nicht beachtet?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
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• Welche Spielaktion wolltest du durchführen?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
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• Was passiert, wenn du dies versuchst (Fehlermeldung, Statusmeldung des Spiels, ...)?
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
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• An welcher Stelle im Spiel ist das Problem aufgetreten? Was war die aktuelle Spielanweisung?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Was passiert, wenn du die Spielaktion ausführen möchtest (Fehlermeldung, Statusmeldung des Spiels, ...)?
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
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• Bitte beschreibe die Anzeigeschwierigkeiten. Wenn du einen Screenshot dieses Fehlers hast (gute Praxis), kannst du einen Bild‑Hosting‑Dienst deiner Wahl verwenden (snipboard.io zum Beispiel), um ihn hochzuladen und den Link hier einzufügen.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
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• Bitte kopiere den Text, der in Englisch anstatt in deiner Sprache angezeigt wird, und füge ihn hier ein. Wenn du einen Screenshot dieses Fehlers hast (gute Praxis), kannst du einen Bild‑Hosting‑Dienst deiner Wahl verwenden (snipboard.io zum Beispiel), um ihn hochzuladen und den Link hier einzufügen. Ist dieser Text auf der Übersetzungsseite verfügbar? Wenn ja, wurde dieser vor mehr als 24 Stunden übersetzt?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
-
• Bitte erkläre deinen Vorschlag so präzise und genau wie möglich, damit er leicht zu verstehen ist.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Welchen Browser benutzt du?
Safari v11.1
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