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#21303: "Rules really really unclear"
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The rules state " The player with the least points at the end of the last hand is the winner." however I finished with -521 and lost to my wife (and everyone else) who scored zero points.
It's unclear if winning a trick is a good or bad thing.• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
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19. Jul 2020 22:43 • BoardGameMatt • Dieser Vorschlag wurde von den Entwicklern noch nicht untersucht:
The rules state " The player with the least points at the end of the last hand is the winner." however I finished with -521 and lost to my wife (and everyone else) who scored zero points.
It's unclear if winning a trick is a good or bad thing.
It's unclear if winning a trick is a good or bad thing.
20. Jul 2020 0:38 • Tisaac • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
In the rule, it's clearly state that you earn points so you should try to avoid them.
In the BGA adaptation, since the player with the highest score wins the game, the point are scored in a negative way.
So you should try to maximize your score which is the same as minimizing your points.
In the BGA adaptation, since the player with the highest score wins the game, the point are scored in a negative way.
So you should try to maximize your score which is the same as minimizing your points.
20. Jul 2020 2:09 • Sal0 • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
yes. this needs to be fixed.. reading rules makes people believe for the first game that negative points are good! so when they see their score go negative they dont understand that papayoo cards are bad!
20. Jul 2020 8:35 • Sisyph • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
Oh, i understand know why some people play in a way to score points. The score table displays negative points, but for sure it has to be change into positive points to match with rules and be more logical.
But could be an issue for sorting winner with GBA system?
But could be an issue for sorting winner with GBA system?
20. Jul 2020 17:14 • stopherjones • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
Agree - it would make more sense if point scored were positive
22. Jul 2020 6:30 • xcentricmalaika • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
There was much confusion around our game table about the point scoring. Either adjust the game scoring to give positive points or adjust the "How to Play" and the rule book to say that tricks give negative points.
22. Jul 2020 11:17 • Tisaac • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
The BGA system make the player with the bigger score wins the game. So positive scoring would not work here.
I added some warning in the rules wiki for the french version, but I don't have the right to change the english version...
I added some warning in the rules wiki for the french version, but I don't have the right to change the english version...
31. Mär 2021 0:04 • KongKing123 • Die Entwickler hätten gern mehr Informationen zu diesem Vorschlag:
The rules first say "collect as few points as possible" before anything else, so it's clear that getting points is a bad thing.
All that could really be done on BGA is adding some kind of "help" tooltip which explains this. Or perhaps display the current leader or ranks somewhere (on the scoreboard after every hand, for example).
"Points" could also be changed into "minus points", but I think that would only create extra confusion.
"
[Object of the game]
Collect as few points as possible.
[...]
[Game over]
[...] The player with the least points at the end of the last hand is the winner.
"
All that could really be done on BGA is adding some kind of "help" tooltip which explains this. Or perhaps display the current leader or ranks somewhere (on the scoreboard after every hand, for example).
"Points" could also be changed into "minus points", but I think that would only create extra confusion.
"
[Object of the game]
Collect as few points as possible.
[...]
[Game over]
[...] The player with the least points at the end of the last hand is the winner.
"
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