#153390: "Adrenaline is not handled correctly when a player leaves the game"

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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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From move #1655
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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Google Chrome v131

• Bitte kopiere den Text, der in Englisch anstatt in deiner Sprache angezeigt wird, und füge ihn hier ein. Falls du einen Screenshot dieses Fehlers hast (optimale Vorgehensweise), kannst du ihn bei Imgur.com hochladen, den Link kopieren und hier einfügen.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
• Ist dieser Text auf der Übersetzungsseite verfügbar? Wenn ja, wurde dieser vor mehr als 24 Stunden übersetzt?
From move #1655
• Welchen Browser benutzt du?
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• Bitte erkläre deinen Vorschlag so präzise und genau wie möglich, damit er leicht zu verstehen ist.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.

The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.

There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it.
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